Open Letters : The Gaga Question
- AuntieWicked
- May 10, 2011
- 10 min read
The Gaga Question :
A Dueling Aunties Debate and
Open Letter to Lady Gaga.
It had to happen, as eventually all things will be discussed by the Aunties and with the Judas video release last week, the new album about to drop, and Mike Rooth’s work on the Gaga-esque Hadron Colliderscope comic, “Poker Face Oddity”, these Aunties could no longer
postpone
The Gaga Question
or questions as the case maybe (nothing is singular with the G
aga).
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But back to the point(s).To start a fresh discussion of Gaga, Lumi ,ever the go-getter, sent Wicked up some links to what seem to be the most important Gaga-ish things. In previous discussions, Lumi and Wicked have never really been able to talk the Gaga; as Lumi was ill behaved and Wicked was defensive.Fortunately this night everyone was very well hydrated and had taken their multi-vitamins. So ready for a big girl talk! While watching the videos, the Aunties got to nitty-gritty of miss top titty.
Here’s the almost unadulterated transcript of how the talk went down:
Lumi: I think we should start with the sad mashup of her talking in the black outfit…before this video and since the end of the sort of the “Telephone” and “Bad Romance”(which this auntie loved) moments.. I have possibly been too hard on her (hides massive pile of Gaga in the media critiques). Anybody can have a bad Vanity fair moment right? And when you listen to her…
Lumi: Well Wicked, I am not saying that you are right just yet, cause we have an argument to have but i think that video is a pretty powerful, uhmm point in her favor.Wicked: Oh, Because you she MEANS it all?Lumi: I am not conceding to that yet!Wicked: LOLLumi: Okay let’s started with the argument part now. Let’s begin from Gaga as she is RIGHT NOW! Whatgoing on with gaga right now?Wicked:Want to start with your talk points? ()Lumi: Yes let’s use those! Okay…as of the release of “Born this Way” and “Judas” off the new album, the big question still seems to be, Is Lady Gaga good?Wicked: Gaga being good is a very complex thing. Gaga has a great voice, and tons of Charisma (that’s capital “c” charisma kids the only higher level is with a “k” charisma and these Aunties have yet to even see it outside of a laboratory setting).
If, say I, sat Lady Gaga in the pantheon of Grace Jones, Beth Ditto, or the like, you might say Gaga is not the most incredibly talented girl on the earth.Lumi: It is a question, in that, we have to really separate several issues when we are talking about most major pop divas!
Wicked: Yeah, Gaga has a beautiful voice, its strong, but its not perfect, and In comparison to Xtina, who over does every little thing, or Britney who’s still singing like a 14 year old Karaoke star…Well compared to that Gaga is incredible.Lumi: She’s is “incredible” is an important statement, I think. Because the Gaga may not be good but she is defs incredible – indefinably. One might say, “that girl is something else”.Wicked: And when you think about it, do we love Bowie for his perfect voice?Lumi: Well I think that is a very valid point. How many male pop stars really have to have perfect voices? People often make fun of those men whose voices are too perfectly. And Don’t even get started on the voices in rock? I suppose what upset me recently about gaga is also very complex and really about the bar she set for herself?and something about how when you are a woman who becomes famous the DELUGE of images people will make of u creates a whole ‘nother voice, one that may even easily overcome that of the musical one.Wicked: Well I think fame is a nasty subject not everyone can handle it, we know this.Lumi: And she does say as much herself…Wicked: Not even someone like Hunter S. Thomson could handle it.Lumi: I guess then I wonder, Is the Gaga handling it? Like, if you or I was to be first encountering the Gaga right now, like our first experience with her was “Born this Way” or “Judas”and had no other media uhmm barf about in our headswhat do you think our response would be?Wicked: I’m not sure, mostly because I avoided Gaga like the plague when people talked about her alot. The more they talked, the more I would avoid her.Lumi: LMAO,and your fear of lemmingsWicked: So I pretty much ended up missing her until I relented one day when youtube gave me the “Beautiful, Dirty, Rich” video. Honestly I was impressed, with all the kind of fail hipster 80’s shit I was seeing, I was impressed that she was getting this very 80’s pop diva going, studio 54, coke, disco.
Lumi: Don’t worry i was pulling the video as you were typingit def is/was a refreshing contrast to hipster music and emo.Wicked: I watched a few, and said to myself…’She’s def not some vapid horror that bores me, and I haven’t loved pop since the 80’s practically because its so bubblegum and just completely unappealing to me as a person.’ And not to be too blunt but I love pop a little slutty and rock infested.Lumi: Well i think pop has been more than a little slutty for quite awhile now, but Gaga is certainly is bringing a taste of the rock though.Wicked: So to the whole point of whether she would be interesting if we found her just now: I can’t say for sure, but I would be interested in Gaga on the basis of what she’s done recently. Its fun and dirty and her idealism about the Monsters is really sweet.Bad Romance however, is what made me fall for her for realz.Chicks just don’t talk about this sort of all too common relationship scenario in an empowered way.Lumi: Speaking of the Little Monsters, What do you make of the whole monster cult thing and how she speaks of it? And also yes “Bad Romance” and “Telephone” went beyond anything I have seen or experienced in pop music since being a child of the eighties. The empowerment of both songs was a big thing as was watching a young woman really do the damn thing and own them.
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Wicked: Well,I think the Monsters thing is not really of any concern at all to me? Its not only the show of her educated approach to self promotion (by people who don’t feel the belong a ‘place’ by being her fan) But also serves the purpose of her, possibly being a person who genuinely felt rejected by the world, reaching out to all others who do too, and it blings my strings, because I’m somebody who spends alot of time trying to do the same thing.Lumi: I suppose the hardest thing about lady gaga is that… she doesn’t always make sense! I think it is a very modern expectation for our rock-stars or pop stars to make a lot of linear sense. She said her self she lives, ‘half in reality and half in fantasy.’I think the thing with lady gaga, when i like her actually, is when she is making us very uncomfortable. I worry over her when she is pandering but then maybe the pandering is the act, I am not sure….Wicked: Well isn’t it a worry about who she is pandering too? And how far into the fantasy she is. But lets face it, she spent her life being a Drama-Kid, one of those New York arty people who only half live in reality anyway.
Lumi: In that Judas performance she reminded of that man uhmm the singer from The Who.Wicked: Rodger Daltry?Lumi: I think so? is that insane? from specifically the Who’s “Tommy”
Wicked: Well I know the fall of our most rocking girls is always hard to watch. We always stand in fear hat this could def be the Who’s Tommy over and over where she begins to believe she is the Messiah and goes down that path.Lumi: I don’t know if we know how to deal with a woman who is a rock-star! We live in a world where, “Yes!”, you do have to be the pop diva queen and the only way to really hold that is to do this but then again she may possibly be insane or on yet another pinkie finger might be, is this a SHOW of crazy? Wicked: Well lets face it…the bigger fear then falling like Ziggy Stardust, is that she becomes a pathetic figure like most Pop Divas dying the death of someone fucking irrelevant and 50 humping a boom box.
Lumi: yes? see? I think i fell for her hard as “my new rock-star diva”, with “Bad Romance“, and “Telephone”,“Alejandro”, and i began to worry. Not that Madonna didn’t go through the big relig-io phase but then where did her phases and her buying into her own thing ultimately lead her? I am afraid of that and I am afraid of her becoming…what i think of as the “cookie cutter of weird girl”? a la’ Tori Amos y P.J Harvey etc…Wicked: Well I was worried because “Alejandro” felt too forced…Lumi: Yes!Wicked: She wasn’t having fun or organized.Lumi: See? the fun! It really is important to me that the women with the keys to the musical world at least try to have fun.Wicked: She seemed tired and purposeful and knowing the meaning of it I think I can see it, but you really want to help the gays and the aunties stay on board, so please do it covered in glitter. Mostly, “mad me want to go wherever she was, pick her up, and, feed her sammiches and tell her to sleep in.Lumi: She really does need some rest and kibble cause uhhhwhen i see this girl just uhmm maybe just five years ago? Not long anyway…
I’m more than a little concerned. Like of course, money makes for nice packaging and costumes and who wouldn’t? do it all! But I miss this awkward stoner in her though?Wicked: Well if Bowie can have flipped through projects and persona’s like the world was made of tissues then its entirely possible for Gaga to have many personas.Lumi: Let us pray that it shall be so, possibly we can skip the middle man and pray straight to Gaga now that she is some kind of anti-saint in the church of monster!Wicked: I wouldn’t be sad to see her assassinate Gaga and start over again all new…after a nice vacation, with poolboys…Lumi: Okay enough redesigning and fantasizing the Gaga’s escape and eventual comeback, for now…lets shift gears though specifically speaking her music? Does the actual music itself move you? Wicked: Well “Bad Romance” was on a loop to be for ages, mostly because it spoke to me in my personal experiences.Lumi: I have moved to “Poker Face” but yes! It is nice to hear some songs like “Bad Romance”, that really reflect the Un-Disney nature most of us experience in our rocky road of relationships.Wicked: It was right on. Her lyricism is very beat-poety, it reminds me of someone who’s feasted on the granddaddy’s of counter culture. As for Telephone I think it was a real gayboy/independent party girl anthem, but not as much for the lyrics, but because her choice of beats is, occasionally incredible. The mix of sounds in that song really makes me bop in a way that I haven’t since eighties Madonna.Lumi: It really is the whole combo of beats, funky club tunes, sometime provocative lyrics, and the images she uses to back it up that make Gaga, at the very least, impossible to ignore.And when she gets it, when she OWNS the song like “Bad Romance”, its like all the girls have to stop what they are doing and run to dance in the nearest bathroom! Or now cry….I find this newest album, so far, to be much sadder? Which might seem odd cause of all the murder in the last one
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Wicked: I think she is sadder…Lumi: I agree.Wicked: … But I don’t think its BAD that she’s sadder, I think its interesting, and very genuine. I was very sad when I’d finally gotten everything I wanted. The demons that drove me to the place… hadn’t gone away and there was lots of feeling massively alone, on top of my little mountain of success. The worst part is when you kick ass you mostly kick ass with the energy of ‘showing them’ or being angry. When that ANGER is gone all you have left is sad. And some people don’t react well to that, it seems pitiful, but Sad is a very appropriate response for being the Queen of the World. It will eventually teach her that life isn’t about beating or showing, or being angry, maybe she will discover some new energy for herself in the process.I mean it took me till I was much older than her, but maybe its just a part of the journey.Lumi: I hope so, the so-sad scares me. I, unlike many others, as she said, on the anderson cooper interview…do not want to see her or any other female stars go down in a flame of Ophelia. Whew. TOO SAD…let’s go to another question! In your wildest favourite story of lady gaga later – what is she making?Wicked: Mhmm… Gaga is faux-crucified in front of an audience of millions…Lumi: OMG! Crucified, of course! Sinead o’ Connor should be invited to help! It could be her redemption.Wicked: Stephanie takes all her monies and buys a large island in the Atlantic, on top of an old volcano, and turns the Monsters into a real army.
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Wicked: …and after a long vacation with lots of pool boys brings her sharp style to the world reborn as a benevolent dictatorLumi: And she could come back with like a industrial-grindey Rhythm Nation type thing!Wicked: and become the true Queen of Pop. No humping anything,just being fabulous for all the land to know!Lumi: She will re-emerge, reborn even, as the true Queen.Wicked: Who’s message of get along, be nice to people, and “You have someone, don’t be sad”, will help all of us go on. Also more selfishly there will be a line of fashion Gaga headbands with horns, lace, ears, etc and I will very pleased.Lumi: Please, Lady Gaga, with all your knowledges and monies do invent headbands that don’t hurt and have fabulous things on them! The motto can be, “Fits just like Sunglasses”, which will make perfect sense to all women who can happily wear sunglasses on their head but for whom headbands cause an insta-migraine. I also want her to continue to gracefully exit and come back with something new and appropriate for many years to come. And well I want US all in the future to be able to adore women,including gaga, without divorcing them entirely from humanity and so ends my idealistic tirade for the night.
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